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DVA4215
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Posted onPost created on
February 27 2011 16:02 ET by Kyle Hatch
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Hey DVA,
Fiirst off, sorry for another thread but handling a new system for the first time throws its share out at you! I have a pretty good computer but I feel like I am not getting what I should be out of it. When I fly though heavy clouds (REX) it kind of stutters. Ill be panning around and about every second it "skips". When I put this computer together, I was thinking it shouldn't drop below 25fps ever... but thats not the case. I do get 27 (locked at 27) when cruise and most of the time but once I get down through the clouds and the traffic it drops as low as 16fps! Im running FS9 maxed out.
My specs are:
74GB HD
Windows XP 32 bit
Intel Pentium D Dual Core 3.4Ghz
PNY geForce EE 9800GT 1024MB PCI-E
3GB DDR 2 RAM
To me, I thought this should run FS9 perfectly, even FSX! I have been thinking of saving up for Windows 7 hoping that would solve the problem, I've heard it has solved a lot of others FPS problems. My GPU shows its GPU load is only 42%
Thanks!
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DVA7016
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Posted onPost created on
February 27 2011 16:18 ET by Alan Barber
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Kyle - clouds are an FPS killer, always have been always will. Especially REX. The stutters you speak of could be down to a certain extent to Direct X sound acceleration. Type 'DXDiag' in the Run Area and click on the sound tab and move the acceleration slider to basic. That should help. Also, do you have the DXT option checked for REX, if not give that a try, you will have to reload your textures obviously. There are a few other things that could help but try those first. Oh yes, and do make sure that FS9 is running at the same Resolution and colour depth as you desktop. Let me know if this helps. And don't forget that FS is much more CPU than GPU intensive.
Alan BarberSenior Captain, B767-300
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DVA4215
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Posted onPost created on
February 27 2011 16:47 ET by Kyle Hatch
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Thanks again, Alan! Seems like you really know your stuff! I changed the sound acceleration to basic, will this decrease sound quality? I've never messed with sound acceleration so I have no idea what its purpose is. I have DXT check already, and FS is running the same resolution as my desktop. I am running in windowed mode if that matters. Right now in my flight there are no clouds but as soon as I test the results, I will be sure to let you know! I am waiting for another stick of RAM to arrive, once thats here I will be running 4GB on dual channel hoping that will help somewhat.
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DVA7016
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Posted onPost created on
February 27 2011 17:09 ET by Alan Barber
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Kyle not it won't mess up your sound quality. The extra stick of ram will be of more use when/if you go to W7 as XP doesn't really use higher memory. Also, when did you last defrag your PC? A fragmented drive can have a serious effect on performance. If poss I would steer clear of the built in windows defrag and look at something like O&O defrag. I think you can get a thirty day trial. If you do get this give me a shout before you use it as I know how to best defrag using it. HTH
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DVA7016
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Posted onPost created on
February 27 2011 17:18 ET by Alan Barber
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Kyle - also type MSConfig into the run command and click on the startup tab. See what programs are running at startup and if you can disable any. Also - what level of anti-aliasing do you use? It might be worth scaling back on that a bit. Do you use Nhancer for your Geforce card?
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DVA4215
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Posted onPost created on
February 27 2011 17:18 ET by Kyle Hatch
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The last time I defraged was about 2 weeks ago. I pulled up the defrag and ran the analysis and it shows almost all blue, which looks pretty good! Ill look into the trial of O&O, as buying it right now would be a priority after saving up for W7. I am using 8xSQ within nVidia Inspector. I dont use nHancer Thanks Alan!
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DVA7016
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Posted onPost created on
February 27 2011 17:23 ET by Alan Barber
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Okay, thats cool. The advantage that O&O has is that it can set files into a particular order and reduce read times, which in turn will reduce stutters. Getting FS running well is all down to a stable PC. Until a couple of years ago I used to fiddle and fuss with my FS9.cfg file almost every day. Then I realised that there is actually not much that you really alter in it. Since then I have concentrated on keeping my PC clean and tidy and haven't touched fs9.cfg in over a year. I see that you HDD isn't overly big by todays standards - how much space do you have left on it?
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DVA4215
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Posted onPost created on
February 27 2011 17:44 ET by Kyle Hatch
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I have 37GB free space left on my Hard Drive. I did pick up this PC for $40 so I couldn't complain about the HD size (excluding the cost of RAM, GPU and power supply) I do have another 30GB HD sitting around, I dont know if it would help to throw it in. Not sure if you know but W7 should help improve performance in FS9, shouldn't it?
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Posted onPost created on
February 28 2011 01:57 ET by Rhys Barber
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Hi Kyle, replying using my sons AFVA login - my work bars DVA for some reason. Anyway, W7 should help with FS9 especially if you go 64bit. Also bear in mind that you will be starting with a clean system so you should notice an improvement anyway. The 30gb hard drive should be a good idea depending on how old it is and what the quoted speed/access times are. FS benefits greatly from being on its own dedicated drive as you don't have FS and the OS trying to use the same drive at the same time. Trying not to spend your money for you but you might want to think about getting a one or two new drives when you go W7 they are comparitively cheap these days.
For now though you have enough space on your HDD so that it won't be causing a problem, though as I previously mentioned a good defrag would not go amiss. Trying the other drive when you get W7 would definately be an idea, its just that given the size of it I would guess its quite old and may struggle a bit, but on the flip side if you are doing a complete reinstall anyway you could give it a try and see what it's like, knowing that you may have to reinstall FS again if it don't work out.
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Posted onPost created on
February 28 2011 12:32 ET by Eric Petersen
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I don't know if this would help but download game booster and it will close out all processes that are unnecessary. I use this before I start up FS and it closes a number of unneeded processes that take up memory. I then go into Task Manager and close out other processes that game booster does not close. http://iobit.com/gamebooster.html
Eric PetersenCaptain, B737-800
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AFV427
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Posted onPost created on
February 28 2011 13:13 ET by Rhys Barber
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Eric what version of Gamebooster are you using? My dad (DVA7016) says that anything after version 1.6 can actually use more resources than it saves, however there is hope that the latest update (released last week?) addresses this problem. Something that dad set up on my PC is AlacrityPC which he says does the same thing only better
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DVA7016
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Posted onPost created on
February 28 2011 17:39 ET by Alan Barber
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Let me elaborate on what my son has put. After version 1.6 I could see no gain whatsoever from using Gamebooster. This could however just be related to my system. IMHO AlacrityPC gives you more control over your FS runtime environment. It used to go under the name FS Autostart. Here's a link to the website should anyone want to give it a try http://alacritypc.kensalter.com/
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DVA043
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Posted onPost created on
February 28 2011 17:45 ET by Luke Kolin
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FWIW I wouldn't expect much from a Pentium D - it's just two P4s onto the same chip package, slow *and* hot. Even a low end Athlon64 or Core2 product should run circles around it, and is pretty cheap nowadays.
Cheers!
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Posted onPost created on
February 28 2011 18:11 ET by Dan Turner
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Alan, you really should start a thread on how to get FS9 humming, you really now your stuff. Im doing a system image restore as we speak, mind if I shoot you an email tomorrow when I reinstall everything?
P.S. Can you recomend a good registry cleaner?
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DVA6133
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Posted onPost created on
February 28 2011 19:45 ET by Eric Petersen
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Alan...I am going to try out AlacrityPC to see if there is any difference. Thanks!!
Eric PetersenCaptain, B737-800
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DVA4215
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Posted onPost created on
February 28 2011 21:01 ET by Kyle Hatch
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Luke Kolin wrote:
FWIW I wouldn't expect much from a Pentium D - it's just two P4s onto the same chip package, slow *and* hot. Even a low end Athlon64 or Core2 product should run circles around it, and is pretty cheap nowadays.
Cheers!
Luke, what would you recommend on the "low end"? Something under $100 but runs FS9 nicely. I've been offered a Pentium Dual Core E2200 2.2ghz for free, would you think it would run FS9 better?
Thanks!
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DVA7016
Senior Captain, B767-300
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"I5 2500K - 560GTX - 8GB Ripjaw" Essex GB
385 legs, 1,090.6 hours
384 legs,
1,089.6 hours ACARS 1,821 legs, 4,442.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
March 01 2011 04:54 ET by Alan Barber
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Dan - No probs on the email side of things, more than happy to help where I can. I'd also glady do something to help Pilots get FS9 running well if the demand is there. I'll probably type upp something in word and send it to the forum mods and they could sticky it if they want. Most of what I know could probably be found with a good googling but to have it in one place might be useful. Having said all of that every system is different and mileage will always vary. As far as a reg tool goes - here's what I use http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner It's freeware and doesn't seem to wrap itself round the guts of your system like some of the 'all in one' PC Tools suites out there. It has a few other useful tools too which can help. It does offer to back up registry changes - make sure you say 'yes' and as always back up essential files.
Eric - You may find this useful, a tutorial for AlacrityPC. http://snomhf.exofire.net/alacrityPC.html It's much more in depth than Gamebooster but I honestly think its a better app. Also being written by Ken Salter who has been an FS stalwart for years and with it being developed from an app called FSAutostart its probably more FSFriendly.
Kyle - What motherboard do you have - Luke is right on the money CPU wise. Check and see what your motherboard supports and go for the best you can afford.
Alan BarberSenior Captain, B767-300
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DVA7016
Senior Captain, B767-300
Joined on February 14 2009
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"I5 2500K - 560GTX - 8GB Ripjaw" Essex GB
385 legs, 1,090.6 hours
384 legs,
1,089.6 hours ACARS 1,821 legs, 4,442.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
March 01 2011 05:01 ET by Alan Barber
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Kyle - Did a bit of research into Nvidia Inspector. Whilst I use ATI at the moment (it was an offer I couldn't refuse!!) all my previous cards were Nvidia. Anyway, have a look here http://forum.avsim.net/topic/291720-how-to-set-aa-in-fs9-and-fsx-for-nvidias-2xxxx-drivers-now-with-working-transparency-aa/ It's a profile for FS. Give it a try and see what it's like, make sure to note your previous settings in case though.
Alan BarberSenior Captain, B767-300
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DVA4215
Senior Captain, MD-11
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410 legs,
746.5 hours online 589 legs,
1,563.2 hours ACARS 7 legs,
10.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 01 2011 10:31 ET by Kyle Hatch
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Thanks Alan, I am already running those settings with Inspector. Also, my MOBO is an Intel DG965RY. I have never "built" a computer before so I have no idea what CPU's are better than others and what specs to look for.
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DVA7016
Senior Captain, B767-300
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Posted onPost created on
March 01 2011 15:16 ET by Alan Barber
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Kyle, here is a list of core 2 cpu's compatible with your board. http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=dg965ry Unfortunately my CPU fried today so I'm ancient laptop bound for now. Luke may be able to suggest what would give you best bang for buck. For now I have got to try and find my Fs2002 disks- if I put FS9 anywhere near this laptop it will explode
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DVA043
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240 legs,
553.9 hours online 1,899 legs,
7,760.4 hours ACARS 75 legs,
196.3 hours event 2,277 legs, 9,102.2 hours total 91 legs dispatched, 66.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
March 01 2011 15:20 ET by Luke Kolin
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Kyle Hatch wrote:
Luke, what would you recommend on the "low end"? Something under $100 but runs FS9 nicely. I've been offered a Pentium Dual Core E2200 2.2ghz for free, would you think it would run FS9 better?
Is that $100 for CPU only, or CPU/Mobo/RAM?
Cheers!
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA4215
Senior Captain, MD-11
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410 legs,
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1,563.2 hours ACARS 7 legs,
10.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 01 2011 15:47 ET by Kyle Hatch
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CPU only. I've got enough ram (for now)
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DVA4215
Senior Captain, MD-11
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Joined on March 12 2007
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Pleasant Grove, UT USA
636 legs, 1,647.2 hours
410 legs,
746.5 hours online 589 legs,
1,563.2 hours ACARS 7 legs,
10.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 03 2011 16:18 ET by Kyle Hatch
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Well I put in the Intel E2200 2.2GHZ, and although it seems to run better on the ground, when I go through the clouds, it still "skips" a lot! I am also running 4GB dual channel RAM right now. I'm thinking if upgrading to W7 doesn't help at all, I'll just have to deal with it and be happy with what I have. Just wish I could get this system to run nicely without having to purchase a pricey CPU!
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DVA7016
Senior Captain, B767-300
Joined on February 14 2009
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384 legs,
1,089.6 hours ACARS 1,821 legs, 4,442.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
March 05 2011 00:27 ET by Alan Barber
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Kyle - Sorry for not posting - Still trying to fix my pc. The skipping does sound as though you are asking too much of your system Anti Aliasing wise. If you could try something for me. Set up fs with a reasonably thick cloud layer with your current AA settings and then slew up until you are just above the cloud layer, pan around and make a note of your hi-lo Fps. Then close FS and scale your AA right back to 2x or something like that. and rinse and repeat FS wise. I know it will look awful but see if its smoother and what your hi-lo are. If you have a FPS lock on take this off before you start. If things improve with the lower AA setting, gradually increase it following the same steps, restarting FS every time until you are happy with the balance between a smooth sim and image quality. Could I just check that you have 'transform and lighting' checked in FS display settings.
Just a couple more questions, I know you use REX but what do you use to put weather in the sim? Do you have a registered version of FSUIPC?
Let me know how you go, will try and answer as quick as poss but as I said I've been without my FS PC for 4 days now and am suffering withdrawl. Still I think I've nailed it down to a mobo problem.
Alan BarberSenior Captain, B767-300
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DVA8152
First Officer, B767-300
OLP
Joined on December 28 2009
Online Six Century Club
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"By George, we did it!" Jacksonville, FL USA
1,159 legs, 2,921.6 hours
698 legs,
1,755.8 hours online 1,033 legs,
2,466.9 hours ACARS 1 legs,
11.8 hours event 136 legs dispatched, 40.7
hours
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Posted onPost created on
March 06 2011 18:27 ET by Dan Turner
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Alan, any tips for configuring FS9 with AlacrityPC? And if so does the program actually make that much of a difference? Thanks!
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DVA7016
Senior Captain, B767-300
Joined on February 14 2009
B757 100 Club
Everett 250 Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
"I5 2500K - 560GTX - 8GB Ripjaw" Essex GB
385 legs, 1,090.6 hours
384 legs,
1,089.6 hours ACARS 1,821 legs, 4,442.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
March 07 2011 15:01 ET by Alan Barber
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Hi Dan - cant really give any tips on what processess to stop in the profile - every one has different configs. This tutorial covers the basics http://snomhf.exofire.net/alacrityPC.html A couple of things that I find especially useful are the 'memory defrag' feature - I let this have 4 or 5 passess and also the fact that you can specify what programs to run and which core to use in the autorun feature. I have to admit that I recently had been getting some BSOD whilst running this but I've since traced that back to a dodgy RAM stick. IMHO if AlacrityPC does not increase frame rates (it gives me 5-10) for you one thing it does do is make the sim much smoother. At the end of the dy it doesn't mess with your FS9.cfg so the best thing to do is try it and see what you think - come back with any questions.
Alan BarberSenior Captain, B767-300
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DVA4215
Senior Captain, MD-11
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Joined on March 12 2007
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DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Pleasant Grove, UT USA
636 legs, 1,647.2 hours
410 legs,
746.5 hours online 589 legs,
1,563.2 hours ACARS 7 legs,
10.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 07 2011 17:41 ET by Kyle Hatch
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Alan Barber wrote:
Kyle - Sorry for not posting - Still trying to fix my pc. The skipping does sound as though you are asking too much of your system Anti Aliasing wise. If you could try something for me. Set up fs with a reasonably thick cloud layer with your current AA settings and then slew up until you are just above the cloud layer, pan around and make a note of your hi-lo Fps. Then close FS and scale your AA right back to 2x or something like that. and rinse and repeat FS wise. I know it will look awful but see if its smoother and what your hi-lo are. If you have a FPS lock on take this off before you start. If things improve with the lower AA setting, gradually increase it following the same steps, restarting FS every time until you are happy with the balance between a smooth sim and image quality. Could I just check that you have 'transform and lighting' checked in FS display settings.
Just a couple more questions, I know you use REX but what do you use to put weather in the sim? Do you have a registered version of FSUIPC?
Let me know how you go, will try and answer as quick as poss but as I said I've been without my FS PC for 4 days now and am suffering withdrawl. Still I think I've nailed it down to a mobo problem.
Sorry I havent gotten back with you, been out of town. I use AS 6.5 and have a registered version of FSUIPC. I think I got it fixed now, I lowered down to 4xS on Anti Aliasing and seems to look and run smooth! Im going to test fly one right now to see and will get back here and let you know. Now Im wondering if my other CPU would have worked better or worse than this one with the AA settings... but from what I've read the Intel E2200 is suppose to be better than Pentium D, even though my Pentium D is 3.4ghz and this E2200 is 2.2ghz. Oh well, Thanks a ton!
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DVA7016
Senior Captain, B767-300
Joined on February 14 2009
B757 100 Club
Everett 250 Club
Triple Century Club
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"I5 2500K - 560GTX - 8GB Ripjaw" Essex GB
385 legs, 1,090.6 hours
384 legs,
1,089.6 hours ACARS 1,821 legs, 4,442.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
March 08 2011 04:42 ET by Alan Barber
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Kyle - really glad you are getting the sim round to how you want/enjoy it. With lower end systems (I include mine in this) there is a definate trade off between graphics quality and smoothness. However I can't see that you will notice that much difference having scaled back to 4x. Have you had a chance to look at O&O defrag yet? It really does make a difference IMHO. Just post here or email me if/when you get the trial and I'll step you through it. Of course there is only one way to find out if the Pentium D would work better lol.
Dan - Having read my post again it reads a bit like I'm giving you the brush off! Sorry. That tutorial is pretty much the best reference I know of but by all means - post here or email me and I'll do my best to help. Have you got O&O Defrag? As I've mentioned to Kyle it is well worth giving it a go. Having all the files sorted on your HDD makes a huge difference to FS9 (and FSX) unfortunately the stock Windows defrag (which I think is a scaled down version of O&O) just doesn't cut it. Some have mentioned Ultimate Defrag. A friend of mine used this but I can honestly say I don't think the benefit he got from it was comparable to O&O, but then his system was different to mine so............Anyway, any questions feel free to ask.
Alan BarberSenior Captain, B767-300
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DVA8152
First Officer, B767-300
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"By George, we did it!" Jacksonville, FL USA
1,159 legs, 2,921.6 hours
698 legs,
1,755.8 hours online 1,033 legs,
2,466.9 hours ACARS 1 legs,
11.8 hours event 136 legs dispatched, 40.7
hours
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Posted onPost created on
March 13 2011 22:37 ET by Dan Turner
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Alan Barber wrote:
Dan - Having read my post again it reads a bit like I'm giving you the brush off! Sorry. That tutorial is pretty much the best reference I know of but by all means - post here or email me and I'll do my best to help. Have you got O&O Defrag? As I've mentioned to Kyle it is well worth giving it a go. Having all the files sorted on your HDD makes a huge difference to FS9 (and FSX) unfortunately the stock Windows defrag (which I think is a scaled down version of O&O) just doesn't cut it. Some have mentioned Ultimate Defrag. A friend of mine used this but I can honestly say I don't think the benefit he got from it was comparable to O&O, but then his system was different to mine so............Anyway, any questions feel free to ask.
Hey Alan, in regards to O&O defrag I did purchase the product, with hope of improving FS9 performance. Havent actually used it yet though, Ive started the program but have not performed a defrag of my HDD. It seems like a interesting program so Im excited to see what it will do for my performance in FS9. Only question about it is, (first off thanks for answering all of them), Do I need to tinker with the settings at all(inside the program) or can I just start her up, and it does the rest. So I guess what Im really asking is this, is there anything special I need to do inside of the program to get it to sort my files on the HDD? Thanks for all your help!
EDIT: P.S. Your not giving me the brush off at all, were all asking you alot of questions! We all appreciate you insight and help!
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DVA7016
Senior Captain, B767-300
Joined on February 14 2009
B757 100 Club
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"I5 2500K - 560GTX - 8GB Ripjaw" Essex GB
385 legs, 1,090.6 hours
384 legs,
1,089.6 hours ACARS 1,821 legs, 4,442.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
March 14 2011 02:43 ET by Alan Barber
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Dan, there are a few things to change, I sent Kyle an email with what to do, I'll see if I can find it and forward it to you.
Alan BarberSenior Captain, B767-300
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DVA7016
Senior Captain, B767-300
Joined on February 14 2009
B757 100 Club
Everett 250 Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
"I5 2500K - 560GTX - 8GB Ripjaw" Essex GB
385 legs, 1,090.6 hours
384 legs,
1,089.6 hours ACARS 1,821 legs, 4,442.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
March 14 2011 03:21 ET by Alan Barber
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Dan, here you go. I'm guessing you have V14 of O&O. From what I can see this does not have the same functionality of some of the earlier versions. I use V11 which is available here http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/download/archive/index.html I tried V14 but uninstalled it and put V11 back on, my registration details still worked.
EDIT: Dan, if you can, having FS on a separate disk to the OS makes the world of difference. Not a separate partition but a different HDD.
Anyway, here is what I sent to Kyle:
1. Once you have opened program click the disable monitoring button on the top toolbar.
2. Then click on the settings button, and then the 'general' tab. Uncheck everything there unless you have any important files you don't want to be touched in which case add them to the 'exclude' option.
3. Keeping the settings dialog open go to 'tuning' and make sure 'use all available resources', 'sequential' and 'take layout.ini....' are all checked.
4. Apply and close settings dialog
5. Make sure you close any program (check in the system tray too) that may spring into life and cause HDD activity.
6. In the 'Drive' window right click on the drive you want to do and select the 'Space' option - this will start your first defrag pass - there are going to be three in all and its important that you do not use your PC while any of these are going on - so make plenty of coffee, read a book, watch TV etc.
7. After the 'Space' defrag is complete open the 'Settings' dialog again and select 'Offline defrag' Check 'Execute once during next system startup' highlight the drive in question and click enable then apply and close dialog. Exit Program and reboot your PC. When it reboots ensure it does the offline defrag.
8. Once back in windows again open Prog, select drive, but this time choose the 'COMPLETE/Name' option, it will start defragging again. Depending on the state of your HDD this one could take a while. Once its done follow the same process for Offline Defrag in step 7 above.
9. Once PC has rebooted repeat step 8 (including another offline defrag), this one should be quicker.
10 Thats it, your done. See what you think. If its an improvement and you decide to buy O&O defrag for info I do a 'Space & Offline' once a week and a 'Complete & Offline' once a month. But bear in mind that I only use the XP drive for FS9 and I have FS9 installed on another drive. See how it works best for you.
Hope this helps and works
Alan BarberSenior Captain, B767-300
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