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DVA11048
Captain, B757-200

Joined on September 27 2012
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 250 Club
Six Century Club
Online Six Century Club

Davenport, IA

655 legs, 838.0 hours
619 legs, 791.7 hours online
652 legs, 833.9 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 10:01 ET by Bob Bressert

Hi, I'm new.

In the "pilot center" on our website it states that I was accepted as a pilot as "a First Officer in the B757-200 program. (Stage 3)" So, obviously I can fly the B757-200 aircraft and routes and the B757-300. However, underneath this it says, "You are also qualified to file Flight Reports using the following aircraft:
A310, ATR-72, B1900, B757-200, B757-300, DHC-8, EMB-120, ERJ-170, ERJ-175, ERJ-190, ERJ-195, JS41, L-100, S2000, S340"

I'm a bit confused (my wife says this happens all the time), on pp. 9-11 in the "Pilots Promotion Manual" it seems to say that I cannot fly these other aircraft listed above unless I transfer to their "programs." In other words, even though it states on the "Pilot Center" I am "qualified to file Flight Reports using" let's say, for example the ERJ-170, I am not really able to do so until I transfer to the ERJ-170 program? Is that right? If so, why does it say I am "qualified" to do so in the "Pilot Center?"

A little help would be much appreciated.

Bob Bressert

Captain, B757-200

DVA8752
Captain, B767-300

Joined on January 01 2010
50 State Club
Triple Century Club

Sedalia, CO

338 legs, 1,236.8 hours
31 legs, 181.3 hours online
37 legs, 232.7 hours ACARS
2 legs, 8.4 hours event

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 10:49 ET by Brandon Howell

The manuals are a little out of date. You do not have to be in a program to fly a specific plane. I'm a captain in the 767 and 737 programs, but I can still fly the 767 or 737 (in addition to any other ratings) at any time.

Brandon Howell (DVA8752)

DVA9733
First Officer, B747-400

Joined on April 29 2011
Everett 250 Club
Online Six Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Eight Century Club

"Northwest 238, contact departure.... G'day!"
Minnetonka, MN USA

816 legs, 2,270.3 hours
663 legs, 1,835.4 hours online
752 legs, 2,071.4 hours ACARS
8 legs, 15.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 10:52 ET by Shane Vanhoven

You can fly any airplane you are rated for on any route, as long as it can make the trip safely with the required amount of fuel. However, to have the flight count towards promotion, you need to fly the aircraft that is your program. For example, you can't fly an EMB-120 and have it count towards promotion to captain in the 757. You have to fly the 757 to have it count.

Hope this helps!

Shane Vanhoven

First Officer, B747-400

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 12:34 ET by Bob Bressert

OK, so in my example, I can fly the ERJ-170 any time I want! Yes, I do understand that in order to make captain in rank I must have 10 approved flights using the acars. However, let's say I want to fly the B738. I can't fly this aircraft yet because I have not been approved to do so. Right?

Bob Bressert

Captain, B757-200

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 12:41 ET by Brandon Howell

Bob Bressert wrote:

OK, so in my example, I can fly the ERJ-170 any time I want! Yes, I do understand that in order to make captain in rank I must have 10 approved flights using the acars. However, let's say I want to fly the B738. I can't fly this aircraft yet because I have not been approved to do so. Right?

You can fly it, you just won't be able to receive any credit for it. If you want to move to the 737 program, you only need to fly 5 flights in a 757 and then you're eligible to transfer to the 737 program after passing the F/O exam and a CR.

Brandon Howell (DVA8752)

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 12:51 ET by Bob Bressert

When you say I "won't receive any credit for it," you're talking about achieving captain's rank, right? Also, I don't want to move into any other program right now, I just want to be able fly the B738 if I choose to do so.

Bob Bressert

Captain, B757-200

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 12:52 ET by Brandon Howell

I mean that any PIREP that you file that was flown with a 737 will be rejected until you have the rating for it.

Brandon Howell (DVA8752)

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 13:01 ET by Bob Bressert

Ahhh, I gotcha now, but the other planes listed on my "pilot center" page - "A310, ATR-72, B1900, B757-200, B757-300, DHC-8, EMB-120, ERJ-170, ERJ-175, ERJ-190, ERJ-195, JS41, L-100, S2000, S340" won't be rejected. Right?

Bob Bressert

Captain, B757-200

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 13:19 ET by Bob Bressert

I don't want to drag this on, I just want to make sure I understand it correctly. Is my last post accurate?

Bob Bressert

Captain, B757-200

DVA853
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP
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Joined on September 26 2002
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Rincon, GA

2,204 legs, 6,353.4 hours
2,183 legs, 6,311.5 hours online
2,172 legs, 6,220.3 hours ACARS
2 legs, 10.0 hours event
376 legs dispatched, 185.3 hours

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 13:28 ET by Chris Hannigan

Hi Bob,

You can fly any flight with any plane listed under the "You are also qualified to file Flight Reports using the following aircraft" section of the Pilot Center. If that's where you got that list of aircraft, then yes! biggrin

Chris Hannigan

Senior Captain, B747-400

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 13:28 ET by Brandon Howell

Bob Bressert wrote:

Ahhh, I gotcha now, but the other planes listed on my "pilot center" page - "A310, ATR-72, B1900, B757-200, B757-300, DHC-8, EMB-120, ERJ-170, ERJ-175, ERJ-190, ERJ-195, JS41, L-100, S2000, S340" won't be rejected. Right?

Correct.

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 13:32 ET by Bob Bressert

Thanks, all, now I'll get busy and fly!!!

Bob Bressert

Captain, B757-200

DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA

169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs, 288.5 hours online
25 legs, 221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs, 5.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 13:54 ET by Kevin Cornish

Welcome aboard Bob! Just one other point to clarify, if, for instance, you wanted to fly 737s, but still remain in the 757 program, you can request an additional ratting in that aircraft. The great thing about DVA is that there is no limit on the number of aircraft types you can qualify in. As an example, there are members here who are rated in every single type aircraft we operate. So whatever you want to fly, we have a program for you!

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 14:55 ET by Bob Bressert

Thanks, Kevin.

Bob Bressert

Captain, B757-200

DVA4067
Captain, B757-200

Joined on February 15 2007
50 State Club
Seven Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Long Beach 250 Club
B757 100 Club

"Always stand tall on the Quarterdeck"
Louisville, KY USA

746 legs, 1,361.4 hours
12 legs, 20.2 hours online
706 legs, 1,284.8 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on October 04 2012 20:28 ET by Robert Ward

Wellcome Bob your gonna love it here, any questions never hesitate to ask.

Robert Ward

Captain, B757-200

Posted onPost created on October 05 2012 10:42 ET by Bob Bressert

Thanks, Robert! Asking questions comes easy for me. Understanding the answers...well...that's another story!

Bob Bressert

Captain, B757-200

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